Nvidia disses the Radeon VII, vowing the RTX 2080 will crush AMD's ‘underwhelming’ GPU

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang said GeForce RTX 2080 'crushes' Radeon VII and that 'FreeSync just doesn't work.'

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Oh snap. Not known for mincing words, Nvidia’s outspoken CEO Jensen Huang described AMD’s return to high-end PC gaming graphics as “underwhelming.”

“It’s underwhelming,” Huang said when asked by PCWorld what he thought of AMD’s new Radeon VII, which features 16GB of HBM2 memory, 1TB of bandwidth, 60 graphics cores and is built on a new 7nm process. (See our full report on the Radeon VII, as well as AMD’s 3rd-gen Ryzen.)

Why ‘underwhelming’?

“The performance is lousy and there’s nothing new,” Huang said. “[There’s] no ray tracing, no AI. It’s 7nm with HBM memory that barely keeps up with a 2080. And if we turn on DLSS we’ll crush it. And if we turn on ray tracing we’ll crush it.”

Of course, this is all conjecture, as there’s no way Huang could know how the Radeon VII actually performs since it’s not available yet. 

Indeed, Huang went on to boast that the GeForce GTX 2080 is sold by every add-in card vendor while the Radeon VII is an unknown. 

“It’s a weird launch, maybe they thought of it this morning,” Huang quipped before laughing halfheartedly at his own dig and mentioning how he likes to riff on the competition sometimes. Still, it’s clear what Huang thinks as he again reiterated: “It’s underwhelming.”

[When asked to comment on Huang’s critique of the card, AMD CEO Lisa Su responded: “What I would say is that we’re very excited about Radeon VII, and I would probably suggest that he hasn’t seen it yet.” ]

Huang spoke before a small group of reporters and addressed a wide range of topics including the new Radeon, self-driving cars, the dearth of ray tracing games, and FreeSync.

’FreeSync doesn’t work’

On Sunday, Nvidia announced it would begin supporting Vesa Adaptive Sync, aka AMD’s FreeSync for variable refresh rate gaming. While some have painted this as Nvidia finally caving, that doesn’t seem to be Huang’s view.

“We never competed,” Huang said of upcoming FreeSync support. “(FreeSync) was never proven to work. As you know, we invented the area of adaptive sync. The truth is most of the FreeSync monitors do not work. They do not even work with AMD’s graphics cards.” 

Huang’s criticism can probably be easily dismissed as hyperbole as clearly the bulk of AMD Radeon and FreeSync users have had no issues.

However, he does have data from his own labs that say there are problems from Nvidia’s point of view. The company tested 400 FreeSync panels and found only 12 that would turn on G-Sync automatically. The others require a manual override.

“We will test every singe card against every single monitor against every single game and if it doesn’t work, we will say it doesn’t work. And if it does, we will let it work.”

“We believe that you have to test it to promise that it works,” Huang said. “And unsurprisingly most of them don’t work.”

RTX anger

When asked about the negative reaction that the company’s GeForce RTX cards have received from more budget conscious customers, Huang was contrite. 

“They were right,” Huang said. “[We] were anxious to get RTX in the mainstream market... We just weren’t ready.”

“Now we’re ready, and it’s called 2060,” Huang said. “[It has] twice the performance of a PlayStation 4 and it’s only $350.” (See our full review of the GTX 2060 Founders Edition.)

Huang didn’t snipe at just AMD. When asked what he thought of Intel’s new push into graphics, Huang commented that Intel’s team is basically someone else’s.

“Intel’s graphics team is basically AMD, right?” Huang asked. “I’m trying to figure out AMD’s graphics team.”

Huang did say, however, that Nvidia actually works with Intel more than it works against them.

“There’s a lot less competition between us than there is collaboration,” he said. “[But] AI is going to be the future of computing.” With Moore’s Law basically “over” Nvidia is primed to be the force of AI.

Shield tablet part deux, and the PC is here to stay

When asked if Nvidia would make another Shield tablet or gaming device, Huang said only if the world needed it—and right now, it doesn’t.

Be he was equally blunt when asked about the supremacy of gaming PCs.

“When can streaming be as good as a gaming PC? The answer is never,” he said. The problem is simply physics and the speed of light. Streaming gaming can never match a graphics card in a box in terms of latency and image quality. But, he said, that doesn’t mean game streaming isn’t viable; it’s just that the needs an enthusiast gamer don’t match that of a casual gamer.

The PC is never going to go away, he said, which is good for Nvidia.

“Our core starts with PC,” he said. “That’s our centerpoint.”

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